Public Interest Law Center

PILC's Team

PILC's team of counselors and program administrators are committed to ensuring that NYU Law students and alumni are supported throughout their public interest career search. 

While all of our counselors can advise on public interest legal careers generally, each of PILC's advisors brings specific substantive expertise to help you in your public interest career planning. You are welcome to schedule appointments with as many counselors as needed based on your specific interests.

PILC Advisors

Lisa Hoyes

Lisa Hoyes, Asst. Dean for Public Service
JD NYU School of Law
BA SUNY Purchase

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Lisa Hoyes is a member of the school's Senior Leadership Team. She oversees the Public Interest Law Center, the Root-Tilden Kern Scholarship, the Sinsheimer Service Scholarship and the Latinx Rights Scholar Program. Lisa also offers individual student counseling, primarily in the areas of public defense and criminal justice reform.

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Lisa joined the Law School from the Federal Defenders of New York, where she served as an Assistant Federal Defender from 2009 to 2015. At Federal Defenders, Lisa handled a wide variety of cases, including terrorism, narcotics, weapons, immigration, and securities fraud. As the Federal Defender liaison to two innovative court diversion programs, one for young offenders and one for defendants struggling with substance abuse, Lisa worked alongside the judges of the Eastern District of New York to implement and expand the programs.

Prior to joining the Federal Defenders, Lisa spent nearly a decade at the Bronx Defenders, advocating for thousands of indigent clients. She took a leave of absence from the Bronx Defenders in 2004 to serve as an NYU Law Fellow at the Equal Justice Initiative, working with Professor of Clinical Law Bryan Stevenson to represent death row inmates and other offenders facing life sentences under three-strikes laws. Lisa later returned to the Bronx Defenders as a Supervising Attorney and a member of the Advanced Felony Trial Unit.

After graduating from NYU Law, Lisa won a Soros Justice Postgraduate Fellowship to undertake a project she designed to provide civil legal services to juveniles involved in delinquency proceedings and the criminal justice system. For two years, she provided immigration, housing, family law, and benefits representation to young people under the auspices of Legal Aid’s Juvenile Rights Division and The Door’s Legal Services Center.

While at the Law School, Lisa was a Sinsheimer Scholar, an active member of BALSA, an associate editor of NYU Law Review, and a participant in the Juvenile Rights clinic. Lisa received a BA in Language and Culture and Political Science from SUNY Purchase.

Emily Kernan PILC

Emily Kernan, Director
JD Harvard Law School
AB Summa Cum Laude, Duke University

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Emily's primary area of counseling is in criminal, juvenile & family defense. She also oversees the annual PILC Fair.

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Emily Kernan joined the Public Interest Law Center in August 2015 from Advocates for Children of New York (AFC). As a staff attorney at AFC, Emily worked to improve educational outcomes for children involved in the child welfare system through individual representation and capacity-building efforts with foster care agencies. During this time, she also served as a part-time Public Interest Career Advisor at Columbia Law School’s Social Justice Initiatives, where she counseled law students and graduates about fellowships and public interest opportunities in child advocacy and other fields.

Before joining AFC in 2012, Emily worked at Lawyers For Children as Director of the Mental Health Advocacy Project, a project she started with a Skadden Fellowship in 2007. She represented children in foster care with mental health issues in New York City Family Court proceedings. She also engaged in policy work to tackle systemic problems, such as the over-prescription of psychotropic medications to children in care.

Emily received her JD from Harvard Law School, where she actively participated in the Child Advocacy Program and served as Co-President of the student group Child and Youth Advocates. Her clinical work involved court reform efforts to expedite permanency for children in foster care in Washington State and education advocacy on behalf of children exposed to family violence in Boston. Emily spent her summers at the National Center for Youth Law in Oakland, California and at The Door’s Legal Services Center in New York City. Emily received an AB in Psychology from Duke University in 2003.

Katie Neilson

Katie Neilson, Associate Director
JD Fordham University School of Law
BA Pace University

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Katie's primary area of counseling is in civil legal services generally and housing rights in particular. She also works with student applying to post-graduate fellowships, including project fellowships.

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Katie Neilson joined the Public Interest Law Center in 2019, after spending 13 years at Bronx Legal Services fighting on behalf of low-income tenants in the Bronx. As the Housing Unit Director at Bronx Legal Services, Katie oversaw the rapid expansion of housing rights representation through the implementation of Universal Access to Counsel in Housing Court, a city law that ensures legal representation for low-income New Yorkers facing eviction. Katie also taught a Housing Litigation Externship Seminar at Fordham University School of Law.

Katie earned her J.D. from Fordham University School of Law, where she was a Stein Scholar for Public Interest. At Fordham, she participated in the Housing Rights Clinic, as both a clinical student and a teaching assistant, and served as the Chair of Fordham’s Housing Advocacy Project. During law school, she worked with Northern Manhattan Improvement Corporation, Urban Justice Center’s Street Vendor Project, the Center for Economic and Social Justice and the Workers’ Rights Law Center.

Prior to attending law school, Katie worked at the City Bar Justice Center as the Director of the Public Service Network, a program to connect lawyers with pro bono opportunities throughout New York City.

Naomi Sunshine, Director
JD Cum Laude, NYU School of Law
BA Yale University

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Naomi's primary areas of counseling are in Law Reform & Public PolicyEnvironmental LawWorkers' RightsPrivate Public Interest Law Firms and Academic Careers.

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Before joining the Public Interest Law Center in 2018, Naomi Sunshine was Associate Director of NYU’s Lawyering program, where she taught Lawyering for three years. Prior to that, Naomi was an associate at public interest law firms in New York and San Francisco. There, she represented workers and consumers in federal and state wage and hour, employment discrimination, sexual orientation discrimination, consumer, and disability access class actions. She previously clerked for Judge Constance Baker Motley and Judge Victor Marrero of the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York.

Naomi earned her B.A. from Yale University and her JD, cum laude, from NYU School of Law, where she was an Arthur Garfield Hays Civil Liberties Fellow. During law school she participated in NYU’s Immigrant Rights Clinic, and interned at the ACLU, the NYCLU, the Urban Justice Center, the Center for Constitutional Rights, and Immigration Equality. She served as an Articles Selection Editor for the NYU Review of Law and Social Change.

Caroling van der Mensbrugghe PILC

Carolina van der Mensbrugghe, Associate Director
JD Fordham University School of Law
BA Magna Cum Laude, Colgate University

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Carolina's primary area of counseling is in international public interest law and human right and LLM counseling.

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Carolina van der Mensbrugghe joined the Public Interest Law Center (PILC) in January 2022 after having worked as a human rights attorney both in the United States and abroad. Carolina currently volunteers as a co-supervisor of the Walter Leitner International Human Rights Clinic at Fordham Law School. Through her work with the clinic, Carolina is building and co-supervising projects that address human rights violations and intersectional gender justice issues.

Before joining PILC, Carolina worked as a U.S. Human Rights Fellow for the Center for Reproductive Rights (CRR) and was responsible for using international human rights law to strengthen domestic legal advocacy and advancing reproductive rights as fundamental human rights that governments around the world are obligated to protect, respect, and fulfill.

Carolina was based in Tokyo working at Amnesty International Japan, where she focused on designing and implementing a comprehensive gender and sexuality human rights educational materials targeting secondary schools and universities.

Carolina received her Juris Doctor from Fordham University School of Law, where she was a Crowley Scholar for International Law & Justice and studied for one semester abroad at Waseda Law School in Tokyo, Japan. Her clinical work included criminal justice reform efforts to improve conditions for prisoners on death row in Japan and capacity building training on human rights for both sex worker rights activists in Mauritius and new female members of parliament in Myanmar. She worked for the Global Justice Center and led a reproductive rights fact-finding mission in partnership with grassroots organizations in Louisiana as part of her work with the Fordham Chapter of If/When/How. Prior to law school, Carolina used storytelling as an advocacy tool while working as a documentary producer.

Gail Zweig, Director
JD Cum Laude NYU School of Law
BA Magna Cum Laude, University of Pennsylvania

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Gail's primary areas of counseling are in government service and prosecution. She also oversees the Moelis Urban Law & Public Affairs Fellowship and PILC Summer Funding Program.

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Gail Zweig joined the Public Interest Law Center in September 2015 after having served in various capacities in the public and private sectors, and taught at several law schools, including on the NYU Law Lawyering faculty. Before joining PILC, Gail was Counsel to a small litigation boutique, concentrating her practice on representing a wide variety of clients in federal and state courts, and before regulatory bodies, mediators and arbitrators. Previously, Gail spent approximately six years as an Assistant US Attorney in the District of New Jersey in both the Criminal and Appeals Divisions.

Prior to being a federal prosecutor, Gail was Litigation Counsel and Special Advisor to the General Counsel of the New York City Council, and Counsel to its State and Federal Legislation Committee. She worked on various litigation matters concerning separation-of-powers issues under the New York City Charter, the City’s constitution. Gail also collaborated with legislators, mayoral agencies, and members of the public on developing a broad array of legislation.

After graduating from NYU Law, Gail served as an associate at two large law firms and was the first law clerk to the Honorable Sterling Johnson Jr. in the Eastern District of New York. Gail is a cum laude graduate of NYU Law, and was a member of the Order of the Coif and an Articles Editor and Symposium Editor of the Annual Survey of American Law. She received her BA in history with honors and graduated magna cum laude from the University of Pennsylvania. 

PILC Programs and Administration 

Maddie Montes

Maddie Montes De Oca, Programs Manager
BA Williams College

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Maddie (she/her) joined the Public Interest Law Center in September 2021. She manages the Root-Tilden-Kern Scholarship Program and other administrative tasks for the Public Interest Law Center. Before PILC, she worked for three years at the NYU Law Office of Career Services as a Recruitment and Marketing Assistant. She holds a BA degree in Psychology from Williams College in Williamstown, MA and an MBA from NYU Stern School of Business.

Vee Rodriguez

Vee Rodriguez, Programs Manager
MA CUNY Queens College
BA CUNY Queens College

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Vee Rodriguez joined NYU Law in January 2018. She manages the Latinx scholarship, the Furman Public Policy Scholarship and the annual Public Interest Legal Career Fair. Prior to joining the law school, Vee worked as a Project Coordinator for a startup, where she worked alongside Architects, Engineers, Contractors and City Agencies to present solutions for the specific needs of property owners. Vee received her MA in Urban Affairs and her BA in Psychology from Queens College, CUNY.



Alaura Rich, Administrative Aide
MPA University of Vermont
BS University of Vermont

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Alaura joined PILC in June 2023. Her role supports a variety of administrative tasks within PILC. Before joining NYU Law, Alaura lived in Vermont and developed an interest in government and public service work in her home state. She earned her B.S. in Community and International Development in May 2022 and her Master of Public Administration degree in May 2024 from the University of Vermont.